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Liam Whalen's avatar

Focusing on the issue then, you are stating that despots are forcing people to leave their countries and that is why there are so many people trying to make it and, as you enumerate, sometimes making it across the borders?

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Mystic William's avatar

No. Despots always have millions living under them that want to leave. Always. Nothing has changed other than Merkel, Macron, Biden, Trudeau have all said ‘everyone can come and we will

Give you tons of free stuff’.

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Liam Whalen's avatar

Now, in defense of the various attributes you have assigned to my character, I am sending you this playlist. Left and Right are not what you have been told. If you can find the lyrics to these songs, you may be able to start questioning the people who have given you your talking points (I'm assuming they are from somewhere other than various internet forums). Furthermore, if Mum has solved all my problems, she has my deepest gratitude:

Tax Man - Revolver

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=xYCntCKHy6I&si=4J5LQAWgsnTYey_R

Revolution 1 - The Beatles (White Album)

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=OmsXsIv2Ppw&si=nhGGhY1OGJK6WFyK

Let it Be - Let it Be

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=AbNFLI720_U&si=2TsloELmotZ0ae-0

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Mystic William's avatar

No one gives me talking points.

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Liam Whalen's avatar

Where did you find you immigration statistics then if they were not given to you?

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Mystic William's avatar

Numbers aren’t talking points. How you interpret them might be.

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Liam Whalen's avatar

You've answered a single question so far. I've been gracious enough to divine whatever it is your getting at. Do you have any information to contribute to this discussion that can be verified?

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Liam Whalen's avatar

Your first reply suggested problems with the American border. 8 million people looking for refuge. I am considering your point in regards to Canada, Germany, and France. However, the US border has become far stricter in the last decade. A partially constructed border wall, trial man-sized skill saw bladed floating walls, and an ICE detention center performing an hysterectomy on a women against her will are three examples of the changes I have heard tell of. Your perpetual huddled masses theory does not make sense in an American context. If there are always millions living under despots that want to flee, then there should be far fewer refugees now than in the 80s and 90s. I'm not certain about the European context. I know almost nothing about Europe. I can report that there have been news stories of some immigrants leaving Canada for the United States in the past year. However, the number of people seeking residence in Canada is small in comparison to the United States. As well, our geographic boundaries would make the despot theory mostly unmeasurable. The Tamil refugees are a good example that supports your theory. They braved an ocean journey with no sure sense of their acceptance here before they left. However, those cases are still an exception in the Great White North.

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